California Condor Of them and thereby knew he was not seeing the same birds over again. Paul Howard thought most Forest Service employees thought the Condor warden job in the Sespe River area, was far below the dignity of any able-bodied man. Mr. Howard said that Jack Gains seemed quite proud of his job of watching out for the Condors and had developed a protective attitude toward the Condor. Mr. Howard asked us if Mr. Gains had shown us where any of the Condor nest sites he knows of were located- We told him that Mr. Gains had shown us locations of Condor nest sites that he said he knew had been active. To this Mr. Howard said that Gains must be cooperating with us for he had not shown nest sites to any one else. Mr. Howard stated to us that the more you know Jack Gains the more you feel he is a wonderful person. After lunch we returned to El Monte Audubon Center and were shown about the grounds by Paul Howard who seemed very proud of the Center area and very devoted and satisfied with his position. We left El Monte at 2:30 p.m. and drove into Los Angeles where we had a brief meeting with Mr. Jantzen and Mr. Fullerton who is in charge of the Bureau of Patrol of Calif. Fish and Game for Southern California- Mr. Jantzen being Director of the Southern California division of Calif. Fish and Game. Ian and I after meeting and shaking hands with Director Jantzen and Chief Warden Fullerton, went to some detail in describing the purpose of our visit and that the matter of keeping our operations as much from the public eye as possible were