nov. 21 Drove to San Bruno, south of San Francisco, with Carl Wuer, Jewell Adams, and Al Stumpf, to see the Woe-Stump study area: Separated with islands of green weeds. The green and weeds (broad, thistle) are not as lush as Tilden or Crude this year, and it's a thin-leaved bunchgrass rather than date. On one of their 2 areas they are catching about 30 mice per 100 trap nights from a couple of thistles, no rats. On the other area a few hundred yards away, with more Baccharis and Phone, about 15 mice and 15 Peromyscus per 100 trap nights. They are getting a few weanling mice soon after no reproduction all summer. They say there were very few mice last Feb.?, and consider the population to be building up - unlike Crude and Tilden Parks. We saw Deer; they have seen wildcat (a few weeks ago) and gray fox. Coyotes may be there also. nov. 24 Several showers in past few days. In a.m. went to Tilden with family to look for tracks. Not enough snow, so picked up 1/2 pint of pellets on the grid and 3 gallons around the grid. More than half of the 3 gallons were not on firebreak, and so may not be recent. Many of the scat are disintegrating already. Saw 1 cat and 2 red-tails on the study area, and 2 cats in Muiny Triangle and 1 cat along Inspection Point - Crude road. Horned owls still on Crude area, and red-tails cat seen regularly south of Crude Pastures