Marshall 1939 Whitaker's Ford, Nov., 1939 a downhill one one, they might stay at Whitaker's as long as the weather is OK as are the kinglets, juncos, robins, winter wrens, etc. But perhaps in spite of the summer weather, their food supply is not available. Another possibility is that they migrate south at a regular time, independent of when the snows come & insect food is short. I think this theory is favored by the fact that none were at Whitaker's even though the weather had been the same ever since July. We left Whitaker's in the afternoon of the 17th & got to Berkeley at about 10: PM. Birds seen at Whitaker's: Spotted Owl? (heard at Meadows Flat) Western Winter Wren - seen in public camp working among logs along a little creek. Robin - several heard & seen around Pub. Camp.