Gymnogyps californianus February 7, 1945 Hopper Rim, Ventura Co., Calif. to horses as far as we went. At 12:45 reached the summit of the trail again - saw one condor, long leading for Hopper Canyon over E. side of Whiteman Peak. Saw 9 deer & one mountain lion in Deer Meadow W. of Whiteman Peak - the lion deer left before the lion got too close. At 2:45 left for Parking Place & camp. At 4:20 saw 2 out on ledges at Big Cave. At 5:00 from Pyramid H.O I could spot only 2 at Big Cave F-6. At 5:07, F-6, the left one in a path hole. Air fairly calm since 3 p.m. Dark haze at 3500 ft. level. Fog rolling S. over Liebre Mtn. vicinity. 50° F. at 5 p.m. Went to camp. Saw no condors in roosts along the way or on S. Ridge. The condor track we measured at Big Cave yesterday was 6 1/8" from center of rear toe claw to center of center toe claw marker. February 8, 1945 Pasadena, Calif. Talked with J.R. Pemberton recorders. He told me of Nelli (Dr. HM) visit of some some time ago - Pemberton did not know of the picture eries of Wake & Hill in photographing condors but was fairly well impressed by Nelli. Pemberton had also been visited by Crommiller and Swift re measures for condor protection, & he had recommended closure of the Hopper