Gymnogyps californianus February 17, 1946 Mr. Shandon, Calif. within sight of Mustang Peak & who formerly lived near Shandon. He seemed reliable but did not spend much time looking at birds. He said he saw 5 about 10 years ago going W. near his place - as if toward "the coal mine" (Stone Canyon) or the Peninsulas. McCarthy had it that one was trapped near Mustang Pk. 30 or 40 years ago, Henry said. No known cardors by the "ole box canyons" and the white under the wings, he said. Visited Allie Lewis, another old timer who rides the Table Mtn. - Castlevntu area. He said he had seen cardors often - but they usually came in spring & left in the fall. One had stayed till a couple of months ago, he said. They were usually around watering troughs - perhaps catching frogs, he thought. He offered to try to trap one with a steel traps set around water troughs - if we wanted it. Allie said the cardors had appeared "5 or 6 years ago"; He said the Pimara area was rough & bluffy - it could be seen from the Coolinjo side and was best approached from near Avenal Ranch. Allie told us of old timer Walt Merrill (about 80) who lives near Avenal Ranch. Walt had old Allie of seeing cardors when he was a boy but then not till 5 or 6 years ago.