Gymnogyps californianus February 17, 1946 Mr. Shandon, Calif. to Bach Chester place. Buck could recall having seen none north of the aforementioned flats. When questioned about Stone Canyon area, Buck recalled seeing [illegible] some 17 or 18 years ago near Charley (sp.?) canyon before knew them well. Don McMillan & wife saw 16 at a water trough above Turkey Flat near Kings-Fresno-Monterey Co. corner. Later we visited this spot - it was fairly smooth and grassy of 15+ % slope to W. + not near any tree. Some were perched on the trough, Don said. He had seen 3 the day before in some general area. This instance occurred on Aug. ust 3, 1945. Don McMillan never saw a carder till he was 22, he said, so he believed they had increased in last 20 years. His wife's father was supposed to have shot one near Cayucos about 60 years ago. Bob Brown (of Downers - now in Panama - had taken an egg in the desquise, Ian said & had watched cardors much. Bob had seen cardors bathe in a rock tub at Boartrip Rocks too, M.M. said. I am believed cardors rooted on the Caselinga side of Castle Mtn. in the fall. Turesdell or thought to have thought that cardors may roost in the Pinaceas area near Castle Mtn. We then visited Henry Ludecke, old time rancher, who lived near Parfield