2897 Gymnops californiana February 16, 1946 Santa Barbara, Calif. The old timer had taken 10 eggs he had the others, & once found two young in a nest. Drove to Paso Robles & thence to Shandon. about 10 miles E. from Paso Robles the cattle Country starts - low rolling hills & occasional fleet valleys. At Shandon got directions from Bob Marshall at Seal Merch. Store (a friend of C Z Rott's) as to location of Sam McMullan's place. Met William F Douglas, F & D trapper, at Shan- don. My aunt Caroline had taught at some school in Berkeley as his wife. Douglas seemed quite intelligent & a reliable observer. He said he saw 21 cardors at Montgomery Potrerros last Novem- ber (will send me exact date & time later), a few days ago he had heard of two being seen in the Shandon area. At present he was trapping the Carmathie & San Juan regions for cyotes. He had been stationed at Lompoc for 9 t months but had seen no cardors there - old timers had told him cardors used to come to Francamare (sp.?) mtns there but that none had been seen for years. Douglas had also trapped in the Juncal Dam area without seeing any cardors, but saw them soon after moving to the N. side of Big Pine ridge (S.B. Potrerros area). Went to