22 May 1980 cont. p2. The spring which was basically just a mud puddle about 3' wide by 6' long and 1" deep. The grass around the spring had been chewed by some creatures - most likely deer, as there were no other large animal signs around, and there were deer trails in abundance, though no recognizable tracks in the mud. After a brief rest, headed S. uphill to a small peak (elev 7780) where we had lunch and contemplated an assault on Mt Palmer. We decided against it for that day, but concluded that we might be able to to it as a day hike (without dogs) and intend to try it on our next trip. Hiked back to the pass, where we rested. Saw 2 Red-tailed Hawks soaring over load. Then back to camp for a lazy contemplative afternoon. 23 May 1980. Checked out Phinney Spring. Flow was much less than last year, only 1 inch deep at most, 1' wide, and only about half its former length. Explored the W shaft of Phinney Mine, where we found two Pileguts roosting. Headed for home, encountering who is collecting butterflies and enlisted our volunteer assistance to do a survey collection for him. Storm coming in from the N hastened our retreat.