Here, H. 1998 August 13 (continued) Malpais Borderlands Group. Met in a big gray barn, with high rafters and a bat in flight at times. Relaxed atmosphere. nice lunch; saw Jim Brown, Warren and Wendy Glover, etc. August 14 Joe and Vala Austin, Justin Condon, and two friends of the Austins arrived ~0830 hr to see the snakes, and stayed for lunch. We saw one baly at the entrance to #21 site which slowly retreated, and got signed of bobies 36 & 37 there. Got sign of #28 in same site as when I saw him w/ the Goellners (rats have now totally destroyed/wrecked the C. molossus skin that was there. Found CM 8-27 coiled at base of a small tree in dense grass, w/ rattle laying out from the coil, ~ a few dozen meters west of #28. We saw the edges if CM 26's big coils in the same rat nest where signed was a few days ago. Took Sherbrooke family to Douglas for dinner at El Alamo.