August 12 (with the Goellners). At 1040h, Dave, Gordon and I find #38 coiled in same site as last time facing out. No skins or babies at site of #29. Just before we leave that site a big Butler goes sliding through the saddle fairly close carrying a large snake >=1m TL in its anterior end. We perceive no dorsal pattern and a light belly, perhaps gray or green dorsum - of. Masticophis bilineatus or less likely Senticolis triaspis. The rash slid off low on the ring rocks below Second