Here, A. 1992 May 16 (continued) above a dry stream bed, open oak woodland, where Fred and Phil saw 3 Grotalus willardi a few weeks ago. As we clamored up the rocks Phil heard a small rattler going out of sight, which we presume was that species because C. lepidus isn't known from here. At ~1220h Fred spotted a small adult ♂ C. molessus coiled among the talus slide, only partly visible. We hosed it out, discovered it was in pre- shed condition, and therefore didn't palp or otherwise restrain it. Patch May 17 Chiricahua Mtns., Cochise Co., Arizona Bill Branch, the Hardys, and I arrived here ~1100h. On the way in, near the E. Whitetail Canyon turnoff on the rd. from San Simon to Paradise, Bill and I checked a yearling Pituophis that was immobile in the dirt road just as described above; it hissed and struck when handled. At 1346h we located Crotalus molessus ♂ #9, appearing rather freshly shed w/ a good sized food bulge, sketch in loose curves in mottled sun under a bush; rattler visible, no visible response to us. At 1415h we found C. molessus ♂ #3 in a tight coil at the mouth of a small hole among rocks, ~½ snake exposed w/ head facing into the hole - obviously in pre-shed condition. By now a thunderstorm has rolled in, and we get off the slope as light rain starts. Dinner at the SWRS w/ Wade Sherbrooke.