Greene, H. 1987 3 December Only response to handling was to squirm, crawl rapidly, (continued) and eject a drop of liquid (clear) and a tiny crumb of uric acid from the vent. I could detect no odor. At ~2300 hr Deborah Clark caught a juvenile Clelia clelia (482+101mm, 26.5g) in front of their house on the sidewalk. Its only response to handling was to crawl and squirm, and eject and odorless liquid from the cloaca. 4 December Rained off and on all day. At ~0800 hr Alejandro and I caught the big ? Bothrops asper without much difficulty - she seemed not especially alert and simply dashed here and there in the dense groundcover around the logs, never stilling. Pinned her twice, once to put in the trash can and once to measure her (2.15 Kg, 1610+220 mm - see below). After the second find there was blood in her mouth, which we assumed was some trivial cut from a fang. When released she crawled under the log and seemed OK. At ~1100 I located her stretched out nearby, with the head turned astwardly and a fly on it, but she turned toward me when I touched the tail. At ~1400 hr I found her in the same place, dead, slightly stiff. Re-measured her as 1721+225 mm, substantially larger than we thought. Pickled her. Skin appeared "old," so we wonder if we aggravated some existing condition or simply fatally injured her? At night I noticed a Hyla elachochora eating bugs on the outside of the bathroom window - attracted