1978 Walter D. Koenig Melanerpes famicivorus (21 January) El Batel, Durango Hwy, Sinaloa, Mexico. 5700' elev. (I have to admit that this may not be precisely what he said, as our spanish being what it is, but this clearly was the implication [that a granary formerly there was now gone]). We continued on for another hour or so, but found no other storage trees at all (José's search after this first spot seemed to be more random). In fact, we heard but one short set of karits the entire time. As for this logging business, our suspicion is that it is indeed very important. We did, in fact, come across several cut sections of large pines of a "Yellow-Pine" variety (probably (?) not the same species as on the East Side, but then possibly so [the problem here is that no large individuals of this species have been left standing, so its foliage/cones could not be examined. The possibilities are ① it is the 3needle/fascicle species found on the east side, and is therefore a 4th species along with the 3 described previously (one of which also had very long needles but 5 needles/fascicle and weeping foliage, as described on 15 January); ② it is the 5needle/ fascicle species, the same as discussed earlier from observation of young individuals (without the characteristic "jig-saw" puzzle bark yet)]. Of these 2 I consider ② more likely), however we noted no large individuals of this pine still standing. From our experience at Santa Barbara, I suspect