April 5. Mr. Giltner Jackson Had. 4 heifers & 1 bull. increased in 7 years to 16 head. Out had a calf in November & all need to eat in some extent in the winter. Thinks would get to bred at any time if year doesn't remember whether the 7s bred at 1 year or the second year. One year all had calves. Other years they gained 2 or 3. Did not have enough pasture for them. Never had twins. Never knew wild elk to have twins. Thinks 80-90 elk born here calves. Thinks there are not enough bulls among the elk this year not to be heated in the rutting season. Left 1st, cuts October. Head to trouble in the rutting season. In his (hark?) Thinks the Stall Game Preserve is a protection to the game and is no displacement to the community with as the grazing is restricted. All the range will soon be needed. Does not think elk and the cattle will conflict as the elk range higher in County. Think elk stored as fed in emergencies on one or more feed grounds. Would have preference to the swamp about town over the fences. Thinks 160 acres would be enough. Do not bother much unless starving. 500 elk I lay a count to an elk would in supplement of free; not enough if confined in 160 acres. Would value his land thru 320 acres at 30 an acre. Not anxious to sell 8ns not cut much. Hay but could cut a large amount. Thinks swamp could be drained at less cost than his yearly pasture if hay Thinks 10 or 15 thousand elk would require to be fed, as not as many elk as 3 years ago 600 tons of hay said this year. and probably that much or perhaps 1000 ton cost he bought last year. Cost as high as 7 or 8 dollars a ton year Thinks about 1800 tons in fact within. The swamp and the creek be improved to 1900 tons if that operation were done