Stein, BR 1988 15 Aug need to keep my frustrations in check for 2 more days. 4 Rats caught in high, rocky area where Graham set traps. Tomb bats, Taphozous ? have few if any ECTOs. Prepared all but the one Niviventis - Art too tired and he feels it is special. 16 Aug. I caught a rat! In the 2nd to last Victor in my line. Didn't set off till 9:30am. Started walking from the station. It took 1/2 hr. to get up to area #3. It was a whole lot easier w/o hauling a bag g traps. No sooner did we arrive than the rains started. Pulled all the traps + redistributed them among the 8 of us; then headed down again. Used my walking stick which really made a difference. Graham & I walked ahead and had a nice talk. Asked me if I'd be interested in coming back again not necessarily to China, but to SE Asia. We would put together our own group and do it right. He's gurite, than I am but he is just as frustrated. Art got about a dozen bats, new sp. maybe, now he thinks it's just a large Hipposideros arminger. Interesting how each cave or area, particularly the caves, have only one or 2 types of bats.