Chuchupate 903 California Condor Eben McMillan 1 October 1964 21 Condor on Romero Peak during the Santa Barbara fire. What reason he would have given for falling silent on this observation I have no idea other than he realized he was lying and that if given further information he would become more deeply implicated. Instead he told me of an instance when he and supervisor Hanson had observed 7 Condor on 19 August 1964 near the parking space at the end of the Blacktop Road going on top of Mt. Pinos. He said these Condor appeared to come out from under the trees just north of this large parking area from where they had been feeding on a Deer. When asked if they had seen the Deer the Condor fed on he said no, but that it had to be a deer as they would be feeding on nothing else there. He said the Seven Condor flew low about their position for several minutes before they left... It was here that Mr. Plicico attempted to influence me into thinking the deer hunters on the Pinos district actually are a good thing for Condor in that they leave so many illegally shot deer in the woods that Condor have an ample supply of food. He said 8 illegal were killed and brought in to the Chuchupate Ranger Station the first weekend of the Deer Season in 1964. He thought many more would be left in the woods that were never recorded. I said that it would be nice if hunters would not shoot the Condor when they came to feed on the Deer. To this Mr. Plicico stated, "Oh!" "I don't think they would shoot a Condor!" This just after he had admitted hunters had shot 8 illegal deer.