Frazier Mt. 902 California Condor Eben J. Emillan 1 October 1964 had no need of talking to the Lookout on Thorn point about the presence of condor there for he could make out Condors over that Lookout Station from his Frazier Mt. Station with the aid of binoc- ulars. I could scarcely see the Thorn Point Lookout Station with my 9 power glasses from Frazier Mt. Lookout. The air line distance between Frazier Mt. Lookout and Thorn Point is about 12 miles. I Could Not see a Condor at that distance with the 20 power Scope. So most of the time when these lookout records mention a Condor over a certain area some distance away it is a good bet the bird is less than two miles away. Mr. Upham said a Mr. Vaughn who at one time manned the Lookout on Thorn Point and who now gets out a paper of some sort from the town of Frazier Park, told him, Mr. Upham, that Condor used to nest in the big white cliffs North and West of Thorn Point Lookout. Vaughn told him he used to see Condor go into the rocks in that area. Upham knows Condor when he sees them and also knows Golden Eagles and Red Tailed Hawks. Returning down from Top of Frazier Mountain we met two men from the Air National Guard who claim to have seen Condor on both Frazier Mountain where they have Radio Transmitter and Blue Ridge Lookout in Tulare County. They had Not heard of Condor from other Transmitter Stations they Service in the Mountains east of the Los Angeles Basin. Stopping at Chuchupate Ranger Station I found Ranger Gary Plisco Staunchly silent and reticent to re-discuss the Sighting in September 27 when he was to have seen