California Condor Eben McMillan 11 September 1964 There is not the slightest doubt in my mind that Bertram Snedden Jr. but saw a large group of birds and that he counted them conservatively, where I am differing with Mr. Snedden is in identifying his qualifications to identify condors. Today his mention of recognizing three of 12 condors as being young birds on the grounds that they were not near as large as the 9 other "big" condors he and his son saw a few moments later, that these three young condors were perched on fence posts which for condors would be very unlikely. While being shown a well worn primary wing feather that the Sneddens had picked up near the carcass of an aborted calf this fall the younger Snedden questioned whether a feather being that large having come from a bird as small as were the three young condors they had seen on the fence posts. He doubted those birds could have possessed feathers of its size. I feel sure Snedden saw birds other than condors here and was unable to recognize their not being condors. The fact that Snedden would not know the proper name of Golden Eagles and would harbor the thought that an Eagle could carry aloft a fawn or a dog. That he has never observed Buzzards on his ranch when Dan Garcia had told me last May, 28 that many Buzzards followed squirrel poisoning operations on the Hobson Ranch that is contiguous to the Snedden Ranch - That Crows are common in his place while Ravens are the Native Large Corvidae of this area. That neither Bert Snedden or his son knew of Red-Tailed Hawks, or other hawks other than -