California Condor Eben McMILLIAN 11 September 1964 acceptance of a conclusion that there could have been some other species of bird involved in this observation and that this could be noted with his recognition. Mr. SheddEN flatly refused any such consideration and stated that he knew the declaration of such an observation would be considered most unusual and at the time, with this in mind, had counted the concentration of condor three time, each time coming up with a number between 60 and 65 birds that were in two separate flocks circling the area. His story was basically the same as he had given us previously and he again described how he had come upon this first flock that were at a cow carcass from which they flew and circled while he was doing the counting. Today he stated this first flock to be something over 20 birds. It was only after he had finished counting this first flock that he looked beyond about one quarter mile and saw the air literally filled with condor beyond. Mr. SheddEN mentioned counting this group but did not give the figures on its amount. He did state that even though other species of birds were in the air, anything he was not sure was a condor, were disregarded and not counted. He mentioned Counting the group three times. Mr. SheddEN stated he firmly believed the count of between 60 and 65 condor that were in these two flocks to be a conservative figure and that if wrong it would be under estimated and not over. At Ian's suggestion and description of Swainson's hawks that might have been seen and mistaken for condor, Mr. SheddEN said he knew of Swainson hawks.