California Condor Eben McMillan 8 August 1964 Told me that the Calif. Fish and Game generally have Good relations with the U.S. Forest Service even though some differences of opinion do occur. When asked by me in which matters did their greatest differences occur he said in the matter of areas of Fire Closure which the Forest Service are continuing to deny hunter entry to while the Fish and Game are working continually to get these areas open for hunting. The Fish and Game philosophy is that the land belongs to the people so why not open these areas up and let them in. The Supervisor of the Angeles Forest Service who just died, was hard to work with on opening these fire closure areas Lindquest said. Carl Lindquest said there is no provision in the Los Angeles office of the Department of Fish and Game whereby a program of education regarding wildlife or game species can be carried on. He said that as far as he knew no effort is made by the State Department of Fish and Game to develop an educational program to acquaint the public, and hunters in particular, with ecological responsibility. He did not say if he thought it something that should be done. He did add that A Si Nathansen is in charge of Public Relations out of the Los Angeles office but knows little of his efforts or programs. At 11:45 A.M. I saw a Condor coming from the Southwest quite high. This bird remained high, drifting to the west of us about one-half mile and crossed the valley north of Frozier Mountain in the area of Lake of the Woods, and after—