california condor Eben McMillan 19 may 1964 Ian came at 12:00 noon. We left immediately in my car for Cuyama Valley where we were to meet Carl Buchheister and Alden Miller. Enroute we stopped at Carl Twisselmann Ranch near McKitttrick where we chatted with Carl, who is the president of California Cattlemen's Association for the second term, regarding the policy of the Cattlemen's association regarding the proposals for opening of new areas to public hunting and the construction of new roadways in order that the public can get into these newly opened areas easily. Carl kept mentioning the support that the Calif. Cattlemen's association has given the multiple use program of the National Forest Service, but he made no direct statement as to their stand on such specific projects as the Sierra Madre Ridge Road where multiple use that is now being provided on this area will be transplanted by maximum use of an area that provides little of any value indefinitely. The Sierra Madre Ridge Road could only serve deer hunters in quantitative amounts. This will supplant the qualitative values enjoyed by those who hike or ride into this area in hunting season with reasonable success. We landed in New Cuyama at 2:55 p.m. and were met at the Buckhorn Hotel by Carl Buchheister, Alden Miller, Paul Howard - Ed Morse, Jim Dalen and another forest service personnel, all of whom were just disbanding from having returned from an inspection trip of the Sierra Madre Ridge Road. After putting farewells Mr. Buchheister and Alden Miller