California Condor Eben McMillan 17 December 1963 done due to the area having been kept inviolate during the deer hunting seasons by a fire closure that restricted all forms of trespass into the area. None of the Committee objected to keeping this area closed, but thought it would be opened anytime rains eliminated fire hazard during the dry months in the area. Mr. Dasman seemed a bit concerned here and did keep advising Mr. Dolman that hunting should be allowed, or at least could not be restricted, whereby Mr. Dolman would take issue with him that ways could be arranged whereby hunting could be restricted in this area by the State or County making a mandate to this effect. Mr. Buckheister, in particular, pressed for closing this area to firearms of any sort. He was not opposed in this, except that the others thought more information could forthcoming from the present research project that would give more definite information on this subject. In the matter of recreational activities at the lake which will be formed by the Sespe Dam the matter of making this area into a part of the Sespe Wildlife Area was discussed but given little hope of accomplishment—some talk was given regarding restricting firearms about the lake. This also had its problems as some lands that will be adjacent to the Dam-site are in private ownership and cannot be restricted in any way. Mr. Dolman mentioned that perhaps the U.S. Forest Service could purchase or otherwise acquire these parcels of private lands or that perhaps the Water Developing Corporation who will maintain the Dam area would acquire these private holdings through condemnation and would therefore be in a position to act in the best interests of the Condor—these were only ideas tossed out and discussed for future action and thinking. Mr. Carl Buckheister then produced a letter that had been written him on 5 December 1963 from Nelson Metcalf, President, Santa Barbara