P224 -continued- California Condor Eben McMillan 2 august 1963 only the bare necessities, ie: Gun, ammo, sleeping bags, and a few victuals. All were in a state of frenzy, dash hurrying, trying to get ahead of the pack. Clifton Moyer was most unprepared to handle such a situation and gave indication of not relishing his job of the next two days Condor 7 Clifton Moyer told me of seeing Seven Condor over a Mountain on 19 July 1963 and Saw Two on Frazier Mountain one day and three on another day, both within the last two weeks. These records had all been turned in to Jack Gains a drop-box at either Ojai or Santa Barbara Forest Stations. Moyer also said he would be on the lookout for any information that would have bearing on the relations between Condor and Deer-hunters. It was approaching sunset as I drove towards Thorn Meadows and met Howard Beazel who mans the fire camp at Grade Valley Turnoff from Lockwood Valley Road, and who was returning to his camp after having packed supplies during the day, via Packmule, to the Thorn Point Lookout. Beazel told me that he did not think Deer-hunters would shoot at Condor. He thought the average hunter who came to the Grade Valley-Thorn Meadows, Mutau Flats area is quite responsible and observant of the rules and laws, Howard Beazel told me that during recent years when he was stationed at Thorn Point Lookout he saw Condor regularly. He thought Condor flying northward from the Scope region would pass over Thorn Point heading in the direction of Frazier Mountain. He said that on several occasions when sighting Condor flying from Thorn Point in the direction of Frazier Mountain that he would telephone the man at Frazier Mountain Lookout and tell him a Condor was headed in that direction. At times the Frazier Mountain Lookout man acknowledge seeing some of these Condor as they pass Condor 7 Condor 3 Condor 2 Condor ? [illegible] deer Hunters Do not shoot everything