Gymnogyps californianus July 29,1946 Salt Creek, Kern Co. be prospected, including the Tehachapis. We estimated the under wingproof of "about 8 feet" - the first underestimator I have en- countered. I drove on then & dropped down into Pleito Canyon, Gene Harris place. He proved to be a cousin of Walter Harris of Bryan. Ne & especially his wife, were very interested in birds. Harris said he had been living there for about 25 years. For the last 3 years he had worked for Kern's Land Co. & rode the upper hills. He had worked in Devil's Kitchen area for some time but never saw any condors there. The only bunch he had ever seen was about 10 years ago when he flushed about 15 from a dead steer in Salt Creek Canyon - near road, in ( late spring or summer ) open rolling grassy country? Otherwise he had seen 1 or 2 occasionally in last few years, & occasionally 3 or 4 about 6 or 8 years ago. Harris said there used to be sheep in these mountains until the feed dried up. When Weigh Allen took over the "Land Co.", the sheep were dispersed of ( possibly about 1925 ). Cattle are in the mountains here except in winter, Harris said, but he has seldom found any dead. He believes cattle numbers less now than formerly - the range used to be overstocked more than now. Harris rides the hills often & seems observant - his lack of condor sightings indicates there are not many of the birds here. He believes the lack of sheep might explain this. At Chuckapate Ranger Station I talked with Ranger Bill Meyer. He said that about