the band could not fly from tree to tree and once on the ground could not get up.-although I would climb up trunks and up into tree - he felt very thin and light. As I left several of young flush within Eiff bridge making it in one flight without bounding out & gooded up as usual at end. All six on it one time on one occasion. no 4- approached nut - a bird coming into tops - then on up jump of tree and gave one or two scuishes & then deadland. Young gone - not of own accord Dad was only 11 days old. Nothing torn out - egg no 6 still in nest. Only the one old bird seen but I did not hunt region.