presiding, and 7 "associates" including the Fluecks but Adrian not there. Then to a promotional meeting for initiating a local natural history society. Patricia Fierro, Bleda Bettinelli, and Michael Christie gave natural history talks. Lorenzo Sympson was there; he had gotten for Michael a description of where the cave with amber was located: "Kevin Wesley's camp in Pichi Leufu. Up Pichi Leufu road, past Cooperativo, over bridge past school and farm with alamos (this is far beyond the first school, the bridge is over the Pichi Leufu), up first hill to 1st or 2nd white gate. Name La Taper a." Down road past the keeper's house to the margin of the Pichi Leufu River. Amber is aprox. 1 km down stream on opposite shore up big cliff, at base." November 23- Bariloche. Sunny and warm. Gustavo Iglesias and Nora Unpronounceable came to discuss their research and grant proposals, and last night's meeting. In the afternoon we returned to Mr. Strukely's (sic) house to talk about bamboo flowering and ratadas. He came here in 1938 and married in 1951. He did a lot of guiding on mountain trips, including a group of 50 Sierra Club people to Tronador, Paso de Nubes, Catedral, etc. On some climb which he could not date closer than about 1943, he was above tree line on Tronador, probably near the refugio, in habitat that was pure rocks and volcanic sand and gravel, and the rocks and ground were covered with live rats. A friend of Mrs. Strukely's in the hospital said a ratada in the early fifties, but we don't know where her info came from. Then we went to Andres and Ellen Lamuniere, parents of Chulengo. They lived up at Refugio Jacob in 1950-1951 and described notable quantities of bamboo in bloom and quantities of mice along the trail on the way up to the Refugio. Dead canes stayed in the forest for several years. They also were of the impression that many but not all clumps of bamboo bloomed. They both described the mice as tame and fat, small, short tail, pale color, not dirty. He also described large numbers of "rats" dead on the snow of the ski lifts at Catedral in August of 1968 or 1969. We got the impression that the Lamunieres were reliable observers. They are quite knowledgeable about wild and garden plants. November 24- Bariloche. Warm and sunny. Went to see Mrs. N. Frey de Neumeyer whose father was probably Ingeniero Frey, one of the founders of Bariloche. She mentioned Dr. Venzano and said that she agreed with his observations about bamboo blooming and rat plagues. She thinks that there was scattered flowering of individual bamboos for several years before a massive flowering in 1940. She remembers especially a trail from the head of Brazo Tristeza up to Cerro Capitan. After the bloom the forest was full of dead canes. The snow pushed them over in the first or second winter and made the trail very difficult; it took 8 hours to transit the trail instead of 4. The dead canes lasted for several years. She also saw the ratada at the Refugio on Tronador, probably on the same trip as Mr. Strukely, she