Bamboo (cont.) Then hiked up the Fivas trail over a couple of saddles. On one of them, a couple of 100 m above the lake, rather open, numerous podocarps and coihale, were numerous small clumps of bamboo of maybe 6 culms of graded rings from maybe 2 mm diam at ground level to 6 mm. Counts of leaves + leaf scars indicated that the older culms were maybe 6 years old. The important thing is that no dead plants that might have provided the seeds were seen. The smallest culm of these was usually deaf, and sometimes the next to smallest [illegible]. On the way down the hill, we passed several places where even younger "seedlings" were present. At most of these places we found one or more dead clumps with dead leaves. These were usually within 20 feet of the seedlings. From the degree of disintegration of the dead culms, they seem to have been dead only a few years, and the "seedlings" had only 2 or 3 or 4 tiny culms. This flowering and seedling production must have occurred since we started visiting here. [illegible], but we never heard about it. It was not a widespread flowering, nor even noticed at any one place. Some culms deaf maybe 10 years were seen also. Photographed the Post Office dead clump again. It is, at least, looking rather tired. Looked at the orientation of branchlets [illegible]