Dec 9 Soft at 9:30, stopped in Osorno, then went to Shiffer at the end of Río Negro, Hosteria Cerimbau, where we stayed overnight (Adrian Duffloeg). Saw a gray fox on the road near Shiffer. Many "settlers" seeming to be homesteaded in the Osorno - Shiffer region; many of them Indians. Duffloeg has both Quila bamboo and the straight colique. He says that bamboo is easier to get rid of than Chokeberry. Dec. 10 Left Cerimbau at 10; Millere stayed there to fish. We drove up the Valley and got permission to drive until over Fundo Arquillhue and Fundo Pilmaiquen, two large forested parcels owned by Longwill Panguipulli Sida. Much cutting of timber, especially raulí (according to Duffloeg). We saw huge logs going out on trucks. The road goes up the Río Blanco (Río Pillanleufu on our road map) and comes a divide at Fundo Pilmaiquen. The divide has a strange bamboo grass, fir tree scrub, and acid soil. Cinder everywhere, and incredible huge landslide blocking the river. On the north side of the divide, various Valdivian trees offered such as the podocarp, manzanillo, raulí, and several others that I don't know. We camped in a clearing in the forest (old saw-mill site) and put out traps. Sought before dark, caught 5 also longi, 1 also slinecun, and 1 Geofrus. Peter None of them very large. Collected water from Metro about 14 km 5 4.