Hauken, James 1976 Thorius Hotel Bertrangel, Catenaco, Est. Guerrero, Mexico 6 February Pine forest near Terrala: only one may be an enormous Thorius with large feet limbs and toes - some w/ characteristic dorsal stripes, but others almost totally & dark above as well as below - Does stripe disappear w/ age - numerous gravid females El Sero pine forest : locality is near the one above and the animals show the same general trends (larger limbs and feet), but don't reach the great size as the pop. above - Are the tail relatively as long? Puerto del Aire: 2 species sympatric on the ground ?