Harlan, James 1978 journal Tejocote vicinity of Tlacolula, Ets. Oaxaca, Mexico 5 July Out one salamander, a tiny Pseudemys. At the first site there was a noticeable dearth of cover objects to turn, but at the second place there were several fallen logs, stumps, etc to work - just no salamanders. It's all very frustrating. At other times in the day we worked other localities along the highway within a few miles of Tejocote - again without success. Later in the afternoon we left for Tlacolula, getting as far as Asuncion Nochixtlan where we camped vicinity of Tlacolula, Ets. Oaxaca, Mexico 6 July Today we looked for Thorius in the pine forest N of Tlacolula, on the vague recollection of Dave Breinhold, my two W of Minn. graduate students, two years ago in Oaxaca that they found Thorius in the mountains above Tlacolula. Neither Brad nor I was feeling well today, making the experience particularly uncomfortable when we found no Thorius. We worked a couple localities within 6 miles N of Tlacolula. There there is a lovely populated pine forest at slightly over 2200 M, however it was very dry and there was little good cover to turn. We returned to Oaxaca later in the day. Possibly there are Thorius along the road S of Tlacolula (S of