Hauken, James 1976 Journal Southwestern Research Station, Guasacalma Ntue, Portal, Arizona 30 July 6 August (cont'd) High elevation mountain areas (over 9000' in that vicinity). As Doug and I had arranged to meet Ted in Chiricahua that evening we decided to turn back and return to Chilp. 31 July: We finally hooked up with Ted Biggurs and Friend Last night. Today we all journeyed to the Thornic collecting locality SW of Carrizal del Bravo. Taking Hwy 95 North of Chiricahua, we took the paved road Sld from Milpillas into the mountains. The road steadily climbs through xeric, desert-like vegetation (yucca, cactus, thorny shrubs) to more mesic pine forest to dense pine-oak with abundant epiphytes. The area which we worked (named Chiricahua) is presently the site of extensive logging with several narrow dirt roads leading (to paved road to cross over the steep wooded slopes. The abundance of fallen logs makes travel through the woods difficult while the logs were cut so recently that they don't yet provide good habitat for salamanders (bark not yet loose). Thirty-six Thornic were found in over 3 hours of working, compared with the greater than 100 which Ted had taken alone in this area