Hankar, James 1976 Journal Restament at El Machin, Oaxaca, Mexico 19 July N of the junction of Mex Hwy 190+175 at an elev. N of 7450 ft. Despite the presence of mature oak+ pine forest with abundant fallen logs with good bark no salamanders were found. The surface litter was dry but the logs and deeper litter was moist. We collected two Euneos and two Sceloporus, I myself saw at least ten tarantulas. N of this locality the road begins to drop in elevation and then the habitat vegetation quickly becomes more xeric (scrubby, almost chaparral-like). I much doubt if there are any salamanders N of La Grande. Continuing N we stopped again 7.1 mi N of Guelatao at 7320' when the pine-oak forest has begun to reappear, although it is obviously drier than at higher elevations. Working for ~1 1/2 hrs we collected only one Thorius despite the abundance of good cover (rocks+logs). The lone Thorius was found under a fallen limb only ~3" in diameter. It is of a different species than those to the S being generally smaller (even for a Thorius) with a small oval nostril. This individ. is apparently diseased as it had a tumor-like growth on the left side of its head and behind the right hind limb. Two more Euneos were also found, and an Eleutherodactylus hopping around in the