Hanken James 1976 Journal Casa de Carlos Cerón, Cuatralpan St. Veracruz, Mexico 31 Jan Victor Ceron and a small boy (Victor's son?) Elevation range was 980-1060 m (with Casa close at an elevation of 980 m.) 31 Jan 4PM Brad Shaffer and I were accompanied today by Carlos Cerón who guided us to the summit of Cerro Chichupilla. We walked at a steady clip and reached the summit forest within 1½ hours. What I am calling summit forest is not at elevation >1500 m. and was recognized by a rather quick change from drier, shorter, presumably second-growth forest to a more mature, taller forest with abundant bromeliads in tall trees although still with evidence of previous human disturbance. Bromeliads are abundant especially at heights >20' above the ground. However, during the ensuing two hours during which we examined several rotting logs, rocks and >100 bromeliads we found only one Pseudoeurycea nigromaculata (in a bromeliad), one Thorius, and one Parvimolge (neither Brad nor I have had experience being able to distinguish Parvimolge from Thorius, and I have given the name "Thorius" to the individual which is more robust, has obviously larger limbs and feet, in this case M2381. It also has a