Hanken, James 1976 Journal 31 Jan Casa de Miguel Cerón, Cuatlalpan Est Veracruz, Mexico Diestro algunas San Bernardino the next day. Yesterday AM we breakfasted in Fortín and while looking for the ice house, stopped to ask a local worker if he knew of salamanders. This was ~ 1.1 km S of Fortín on the Avenida Poniente. He recalled seeing some salamanders called "chacnotes" and said there were many around. We all turned logs and rocks alongside the road at this point which is next to a very modern house and adjacent banana field. We found one Bolitoglossa platydactyla under a cement slab which was part of a walkway to the house in about 20 minutes of searching. We left this locality to go to Carlos' lodge but returned later before dark and this time turned those same rocks and logs again and looked the banana field. In approximately 1½ hours of work we found three snakes under small rocks along the fence (all with dull grey bodies with an orangish neck band) as well as two Eleutherodactylus under cement slabs. In the banana field we found one Sceloporus under a rock and one B. nifresens by peeling back banana leaves. We arrived at Carlos' house at ~ 1:30 PM and found neither he nor Miguel