Hoeman, Vincent D. 1964 April 27--This morning we return to Hilo and finally find Lyman Nidols in his office - turns out he got his masters in Game Management at Aggies in '57. Besides school talk, he mentions having seen w. t. tropicbirds in Mauna Loa crater. The smaller grouse we saw was probably gray franklin, and the teal we saw undoubtedly Gardanay Teal Anas querquedula, though he'd not seen it - we found picture in Japanese book. Says there are stilts in ponds. Suggests Puu Kanakaleonui, 9660 feet on northeast flank of Mauna Kea as probable nest site for dark-rumped petrels. So at noon we trade in our Impala for a Willys station wagon at the airport from a fat Kanaka from "Slim" Holt's. We'd gotten a gate key and map from Nichols, so we proceeded up the Mauna Kea Road to Hale Pohaku Rgr. Sta. again, then around the loop road at 9000 getting a good look at a Pueo (short-eared owl) at 8800. After passing through the Mouflon sheep refuge we came to Kanakaleonui and marked on Nichol's map not far below. A couple Hawaiian Fish and Game men were there and we got to talking with them - turns out they know about these birds, but say Harry who's coming soon knows more. They saw 'chirty mouflons today. Harry Ferguson comes with three old daughter, he's part native, found dark-rumps dead after storm up here in 1959, later droppings on rocks, and a burrow where he dug out an egg and returned to find it a chick. Sort of sore and reticent that he didn't get more credit, thinking they'd not been found for fifty years.