J. Davis 4. 1946 Big Pines Recreational Area, Angeles National Forest, Los Angeles to, Calif. May 2, 1946 Snow, but no Ensatine were found. Drove back to administration building at Big Pines Camp ground, and talked to Fire Guard James Colwell. Dr. Stebbins showed him live specimens of both E. croceator & E. escholtzii, and asked Colwell if he had run across either or both during his year at Big Pines. Colwell replied that he had never seen croceator, but had run across about 6 specimens of escholtz ii while rolling logs near Jackson Lake, about 3 mi. W. of Big Pines. We then drove about 1/2 mile back along the road toward Jackson Lake, & stopped to collect at the foot of a canyon 1/2 mi. NW of the Headquarters of Big Pines Camp. There were numerous fallen logs lying in the Q. Kelloggii - Liriodendron ponderosa leaf- and needle litter. Stebbins & I started rolling logs, and each of us found an E. escholtzii almost simultaneously, his a sub- adult, mine fully adult ? . I turned my specimen over to him. We then drove to a camp - ground at the SE end of Jackson Lake, Angeles Nat'l. For. Los Angeles