Ronto, Dec 2012 Journal Dec. 12 San Francisco El Retiro, Montañas de Cuico, Aparte Huchuetengo, Guatemala Arrived in Atamotla at 07:00 on Dec. 10 and drove w/ Carlos Nájera, to Chajul, Quiché, then continued N to Chel, a nice town on the northern slope of the Cuchumatanes in the coffee zone. Spent the night there. In the morning, drove ~5km N to Finca Cavadora, where Sergio Pery had collected mammals in the past, but found that it was all converted to coffee. Searched in nice red bananas amidst coffee for ~30 min and found 7 Bolitoglossa punctulosa and an Andis, all under leaves of banana trees. Went back to Chel and took road E towards Amachel, looking for a forested site for a bigger trip. About 5km before Agua Nueva Amachel, started to pass through disturbed forest w/ some big trees + bromeliads, between 1500 and 1700m elev; forest looked much like our site at Bethel. Walked into forest for ~5min + searched in cut board pile. Saw nothing, but looked great for Bradytriton. Drove to Cuico to spend the night. This morning, took steep road uphill to San Francisco El Retiro, where we collected what appears to be a new species of both Bradytriton and Alsodes in 2009. Found out that the area has been divided into privately owned parcels of land. Went with a man named Jorge to his parcel and opened ~35 bromeliads in mixed pine-oak-fir forest. Found 2 adult and 8 juvenile Bradytriton (put back 2 yrs). Looked under a few rotten logs but saw no other salamanders. This area looks more like the Cuchumatanes than it does like the type locality of P. rathli. These Bradytriton are quite rugged and have either a tan stripe on the back or are light grey-brown w/ a few small yellow spots. Adults are fairly large. Conditions were good - dry outside but perfect amount of moisture in bromeliads. Drove down and went to Todos Santos Cuchumatán to spend the night,