Oct, 27 Road from MX175 to San Pedro Ylox, Sierra de Juarez, Oaxaca, Mexico We spent the morning photographing + prepping. Just MX175 to La Malera, then turned off to San clodis Ylox. We searched in nice broadleaf cloud forest ~400m from MX175 from 12:45-10:30 and opened 102 bromeliads. We got 6 Pleuroderyces saltator, 14 Charipetritia "plurialis" (kept 3), 1 adult Thorius aridens, and 3 tiny salamanders with a more golden dorsal color that are either T. ardens or Cryptotriton odelos. All were found in bromeliads. After eating + taking pictures, we drove on towards San clodis, stopping at a point 7.8 km (by rd) from MX175. We searched in logs in a broadleaf forest (not cloud forest) with many ferns and large-leaved understory plants. After ~25 min of searching, I got a Thorius under a small rotten log. Based on the elevation, I presume it is T. smithi - will have to check the teeth to see. It had a long tail and was very dark (almost black) in dorsal coloration. Drove back to San Pedro Ylox and spent evening prepping specimens. Saw a Basiliscus on the road driving back the previous 2 nights, but not tonight. The day was warm and sunny, and the night was clear. Oct, 28 llanos de las Flores, Sierra de Juarez, Oaxaca, Mexico After leaving San Pedro Ylox in the morning, we drove to llanos de las Flores and searched in logs for ~30min in a mixed pine-oak forest that was very disturbed. At 1 Thorius in a log, and a Lophosaurus + an Alerdia under logs. After we left, it rained heavily in the afternoon across the Valle de Oaxaca. Road was blocked by protests, so we went to see Mitla + spent the night in Miahuatlan.