to, dear 2010 Journal Sept. 25 El Astadero, Carrizal de Bravo, Guerrero, Mexico (cont.) ... around 13:00 focusing on logs. Conditions were very good for salamanders (lots of rain lately), and Tom + Ettye both found a Thorius militaris (1 in log + 1 under rock). Barisia + Sceloporus were abundant. After lunch + talking to someone from the committee in charge of the site (from Carrizal de Bravo), we searched from 15:00-17:00. Tom + I each got a Thorius in logs, and Tom + Ettye found a small Graecastes (I also saw one but it escaped). Took photos in afternoon waited for some man from Carrizal de Bravo, who came to show us a cave w/ a very steep entrance and a river flowing through it. After dinner (around 20:45), we walked out to the road and looked at the roadside for ~30 min; Tom found a Plethodon distinctus in a hole w/ dripping water. Went back to cave and searched for ~30 min w/ no luck. Then went to another cave I found this afternoon, on the old road/path downhill to E from cabins. Cave turned out to be pretty big + had a stream flowing through it - saw no herps inside. Returned to cabins around 22:50; Tom stopped searching. Ettye + I walked uphill along the road from the cabins and searched along the road bank until about 23:20, with no success. Slept in ad of the cabins. Day was fairly warm in the morning, cloudy w/ no rain in the afternoon, and clear at night. Sept. 26 Caves Teostepo, E of Puerto del Salto, Guerrero, Mexico After getting supplies, drove from Carrizal de Bravo to Puerto del Salto. Road was somewhat muddy on first half, got better after passing El Julguer. The first part was mostly through pine forest, but looked like it could have salamanders (more know). As we started