Rants, Dean 2010 Journal Aug. 1 Sierra de Alvarez, San Luis Potosi, Mexico Left OF yesterday w/ Abby, Jorge, Tom + Susan and drove to San Luis Potosi. This morning, we drove towards Rio Verde up into the Sierra de Alvarez and went to El Valle de las Fantasias. Spent a while looking for a cave for Chiropterotriton multidentatus, which we never found, in oak woodland habitat. Tom found a Plestiodon leucostictus under a rock during ~20 min of searching. Drove on to Honey Farms and met Ely, who works for CET (Centro de Estudios Geologicos) at Rancho El Cielo. Spent the night at Hotel Posada Compostela; owner told us how he had found a B. platyptylus and showed us photos. Aug. 2 Alta Cirna and San Jose, Reserva de la Biosfera El Cielo, Jamulipas, Mex. Started up toward Alta Cinas around 09:00, arriving in Alta Cinas ~1hr later. A guide took us to a large cave on a side road from the road to San Jose, which was ~1hr walk from Alta Cirna. He said it had no name, but they call it "La Cueva del Salto"; it was in a transition area from dry forest to cloud forest. The cave had 2 main chambers with lots of stalactites and cave formations, as well as pottery fragments. We spent ~30 min in the cave and found 7 Pseudobranchus scanders (collected 5), all on the walls or ceiling of the cave. All but 1 was an adult, and they all appeared to be similar in size (large for Pseudobranchus, maybe 10cm total length) and in color (black with lichen-like whitish gray marks). Ely had found a small Chiropterotriton in this cave, but we saw only 3 P. scanders. We had planned to