fronto, Sean 2009 Journal Dec.18 Peña Verde area, Sierra de Juárez, Oaxaca, Mexico (cont) ... bromeliads, but they were extremely full of water, as it has been raining here. We searched in a cold, light rain (as at La Jalors) from 18:45-19:30 and found no animals active and foraging. I turned over one small rock atop the roots of a fallen tree and found a small [illegible]. It is smaller and lighter in color than the J. papalosa cl've seen, and has a patch of light color on its head and some tiny white spots on the gular region. I suspect it's a new species, presumably the same as the tail from Jalixtec Nigo. We gave up searching since nothing seems to be active, and drove to Santa Maria Papalo to get permission to work and to spend the night. The comisariado was very friendly and interested, and gave us a permit and a 2 room suite next to the church. It turns out both of our sites are in yet another municipality, San Francisco Chapulapa. Dec.19 Drove back to the forest where we got the Therinus last night, stopping at a point 11.5km (by rd)W of Peña Verde to collect a J. papalosa in the same place we found them last year. This one was under a big log in a pine-oak forest and is larger and darker than the one we got last night. When we reached the forest where we got the new Therinus, we searched from 11:00-13:45 in tons of logs and leaf litter. Conditions seemed very good but we found nothing. The forest extends in a long strip away from the road junction, and parts of it seem in very good shape. Some areas have lots of Chusquea and understory plants and seem more disturbed.