inits, Dear 2009 Journal Corros Peler area, Sierra de Juarez, Oaxaca, Mexico (cont) Dec. 16 ... only 2 Geauxstera; although conditions seemed good, it may have been too cold, since Dec rain is out of the normal rainy season. We returned to the car to find the alarm control was wet + broken, and we couldn't deactivate the alarm. After many hours of trying, we camped where we had parked, and it continued to rain lightly all night. Peña Verde, Sierra de Juarez, Oaxaca, Mexico Dec. 18 Yesterday, woke up + got a ride to Nalle Nacional. Called UNAM + figured out how to deactivate alarm. Took bus back to truck + drove to Ciecattan to spend night. On the way, passed the nice-looking oak forest where we searched briefly in 2008, near km 180 on the free highway to Ciecattan. Today, we stopped in Concepción Papalo for a permit, directo Peña Verde + found out that it's in the municipality of Santa María Papalo. Drove on to the Pinus chiapasensis forest below Chalcaten Nigo, where I found a Thorius tail last year. This forest also has leguminosae and madrone, and is being cut down tree by tree. We searched under logs and by poking in leaf litter around pine trees from 15:45-17:25 but found nothing (17.88&79°N, 96.74541°W [-9km], 153m elev). Conditions were a little dry but seemed OK, especially under and in logs. We drove to the forest at the intersection of the roads to Chalcaten Nigo and San Bligo, where we found a Pseudoryperga sp. + 2 C. "glorialis" last year. This is cloud forest, dominated by a tree with a mahogany-type compound leaf and some kind of tree with big pieces of exfoliating bark. There are tons of good 17.45458°N, 96.93278°W 2280m elev.