Kartr, Dear 2009 Journal Dec.3 Julian Arjales, 19.4 Km (by rd) W of Pueblo Nuevo Lixistahuacan, Chiapas. Yesterday, drove to Simojovel and tried to get permission to visit the community of El Jardin, on south side of a large, E-W trending mountain (Cerro) with forest at its higher elevations. This seems like a perfect area for C. alvarez-deltori, but the community is problematic (Zapatistas/mercenaries/military), and no one was in the municipality to write a permit. After waiting 3 hours, we decided just to go; but the road to El Jardin was terrible and my car couldn't make it (would need a truck). Apparently, Pueblo Nuevo Lixata is much friendlier, but is 2.5hr by truck from Simojovel on a terrible road. Drove up and returned to Pueblo Nuevo Lixistahuacan. Today, we drove (in my car this time) back to Juan Arjales and walked to an area just above where we had worked before. It had apparently been burned in the past, resulting in an overgrown and shrubby understory, but had very big oak and pine trees loaded with bromeliads of several species. We started searching in bromeliads at 11:30, and finished at 16:00. I would estimate we opened 50-55 bromeliads, and found 4 Bolitoglossa. One was quite large, and they have broad, webbed feet; based on this and coloration, they could be B. stuarti, or B. hartwegi. The forest where we found them very much resembles that at Lagos de Montebello. Bromeliads were good (although they had lots of water) and I was surprised not to get more. I think this idea has potential for Guaptothrix. Walked down to pine forest (where we found salamander on 12/1) and got 2 more Bolitoglossa out of about 7 bromeliads. Stopped at 16:30, walked down + drove back to San Cristobal. The day was overcast and cool, with lots of late afternoon fog.