into, Dear 2008 Journal Between Peña Verde and Concepción Papalo, Sierra de Juarez, Oaxaca, Mexico (cont.) Aug. 15 ... We continued uphill in search of F. papalvae and P. pagenfusis. We stopped near the border of the broadleaf forest and higher elevation pine forest and searched for ~30 min in logs. We found 2 P. aurantia in and under logs as well as 3 Thorius papalvae, all under logs. Again, conditions here seemed great for salamanders. We moved on since we wanted to search at the highest point in the area, but found that all the habitat had been burned some years ago, and consisted of open pine forest with dense scrubby growth. We drove on to a patch of better oak forest and searched in logs for ~30 min but found nothing. We also wanted to visit Cerro San Felipe, so we drove back to Cuicatlan and took the old highway south to Oaxaca. We stopped at the high point before descending down to Oaxaca and searched for about 5 min in Pteridoids and leaf litter. This spot seemed like it could have some species of salamander, since the leaf litter was deep and moist, but we found only an alligator lizard. After a long dinner in Oaxaca, we drove NE out of the city to La Cumbre de Chistepeji, NW of the pass on MX 175, and stayed at the cabins there. We searched in pine fies with lights from 00:00-00:45, but found only a single G. angustis. The forest was wet and the weather was cool and misty, so conditions seemed good for salamanders.