Iveto, Dean 2008 Journal Peña Verde area, Sierra de Juarez, Oaxaca, Mexico Aug. 14 We drove down from our campsite to about 2300m on the road to Peña Verde and hiked uphill through broadleaf forest with oak, liquidamber and bamboos. We searched in logs and raked in leaf litter from 11:00-14:00 on a steep slope overlooking Peña Verde. The habitat seemed OK for salamanders, but we found only 2 Graugator. We drove past Peña Verde, through town and out on a smaller road leading to the village of Ixalixtac Nigo. I was primarily interested in finding Cryptotriton adedos, so we wanted to find a site between 1500m and 2000m with bromeliads. We found some nice forest with many great bromeliads 4.0 km (by rd) from Peña Verde and opened them for ~45 min, but they were full of water and we found nothing. It rained heavily for ~20min after we finished. We drove on to Ixalixtac Nigo and I found a Graugator under a rock along the road. We hiked down past houses to a patch of pine forest above a river, which had many logs, ferns and a few bromeliads-Juan Carlos opened 2 but found nothing. We searched in logs until it got dark, for ~45 min. I dug in a mass of dirt and roots under some ferns around a big pine tree and noticed a tail that seemed about the right size for a Thoreus. Despite much searching, I couldn't find the rest of the salamander, so we kept the tail and walked back to the car. We drove back to the area where we had searched in bromeliads and walked along a path starting at the place where the road to Ixalixtac Nigo branches off. The forest