Kanto, Sean 2005 Journal July 16 Fish Creek Trail, San Jacinto Wilderness, San Bernardino Co., CA I hiked back down the Fish Creek trail, stopping again at the spring above Fish Creek Camp along the trail to look for salamanders. This spring is on the other side of the ridge from where Tamberlin reported the salamanders, but not that far away. I searched for 15 min more and got photos. The springs in the area look like much better salamander habitat to me than any place on the top of the ridge itself. I only found one slightly wet spot about halfway up the ridge below a rock outcrop (forgot to get coordinates) yesterday; everywhere else was totally dry. It might help to try again early in the year with more snowmelt, or possibly during a summer storm. I hiked out and drove to Pine Creek, stopping briefly in Charlie Canyon at the Hydromantes site. I flipped the rocks where I found salamanders last time but didn't see any. It was dry under most of the rocks, except under the rock overhang. The weather has been very hot and dry as far as I know, so the salamanders may have moved underground or closer to the stream. I only looked for about 15 min so as not to disturb the habitat any more. I camped in Pine Creek and will hike up the trail to Italy Pass tomorrow.