Knuts, Sean 2005 Journal Canyons near Bishop and Big Pine and Charlie Canyon, Inyo Co., CA June 8 I started the day by looking for a Batrachoseps site that was reported as possibly being accurate by someone in Bishop. It was at the fifth river crossing in Silver Creek Canyon in the White Mtns. I drove/walked there to look (37.40690°N,118.27375°W (WGS84,10macc.), 1547 m elev.). The creek was completely overgrown with willows and was basically impossible to search because of this, although I tried. There was plenty of water and vegetation, but it didn't look like great salamander habitat to me. Next, I visited a small canyon near Big Pine, just NW of the town, which was Derham Millman's Site #83 (37.19007°N,118.34367°W (WGS84,10macc.), 1292 meters.). This is the lowest elevation Hydromantes site known from the Eastern Sierra. Derham reported a granite canyon with some slight seepage, but I saw no seepage anywhere except in a densely vegetated area just above the flowing part of the creek. The canyon was extremely dry, with sagebrush, juniper and desert vegetation and sandy soil among granite boulders. I saw no salamanders and nowhere it looked like they could live. I may have come too late in the year. Finally, I drove to the Oak Creek campground on the N Fork of Oak Creek and hiked into Charlie Canyon. The canyon had sagebrush and desert shrubs growing all over the walls and very dense vegetation all along the stream, including willows and other trees, brambles,