Stebbins, R. 1963 214 Asian Trip Nuching Feb. 10 wished to find out what the effect I seeking true was on the germination of corn, how would your proceed?" The student would be graded on the soundness of his approach and presumably those who had had discovery experience in the lab. would be the more successful. Dickson liked the idea. I described my work with elementary school children on biological topics outdoors. He said students in Sarawak have little interest beyond collecting. A few enjoy that part but then they lose interest. Such studies would be regarded as useless because they would not help on the exams. Evidently the school sequence here is as in Malaya - grades 1-6, elementary, then come the Forms through 6. After Form 3 (the 9th grade) comes the LCE (Lower Certificate of Education) exam., after Form 5 the HCE and after Form 6 (2 yrs. in length), the University entrance exam. There are both government and private schools. The government has a program given to the private institutions, really a very substantial sum in view of the small size of the country. Dickson is obviously unhappy with the attitude of most of the Chinese. They stick together and I not decisive I