February, R. 1963 2/12 Asian Trip Kuching Feb. 10 There were snails of two species crawling about over the wet vegetation. Numbers of birds were heard and seen, one a swift, Mr. Dickson, the Director of Education told me that the swift that makes an edible nest from its saliva is here. At 6:00 p.m. Mr. M. Dickson arrived as planned at my hotel. We visited for about 3 1/2 hours and had dinner together. He is the Director of Education for all of Sarawak and has been here since 1947. He is a man about early or mid 50, shorter than I but stockier, has dark, graying wavy hair, brown eyes and a thin straight nose. He was very friendly, attentive, and informative. He speaks with an English accent and is of British origin. He commented on a variety of topics. When I described "guidelines" and the new U.S. curriculum and asked whether there was any desire or opportunity to experiment educationally in Sarawak, he remarked that he felt there was less chance here than Malaysia because of the backward condition of education. They are just now trying to get science started and are getting some advice from people who have worked in New Zealand. They have a syllabus recently published which they plan to use. He felt it important in such an under-