Stebbins, R. 1963 Asian Trip Kuala Lumpur Feb. 5 at least during the brief trial no pest damage. When the matter was investigated it was found that the grains tended to adhere to the stems more than the local rice. This led to problems with threshing which was a ritualized community effort with religious overtones, hence, since the people were not in dire need they just stopped planting and didn't feel called upon to say why. Dark emphasized the need to have social scientists working with technologists. An oversimplified approach can get into trouble. This sounds like the way some specialists, such as pest control people, attack problems in the area of ecology. The approach is usually direct and does not take into account all possible interactions in the ecosystem. Dark also commented on a political matter - recognizing PRC mainland China when I asked "If I were a political scientist could I go to China to study"? He said "No, even if you could get an invitation, one state Dept. would not.